Aizek Photo, if I understand you correctly, Alice is now creating an exif for AI generation?
Alexander Chumakov, I understand that an exif is an image description, not a prompt for the neural network used for generation. I uploaded a photo and asked for a description and hashtags for the image. I used this tool, Perplexity. I think Alice can also provide an image description.
Alexander Chumakov, Exif, as I understand it, is an image description, not a prompt for the neural network used for generation. I uploaded a photo and asked for a description and hashtags for the image. I used this tool, Perplexity. I think Alsa can also provide a description.
Aizek Photo, so that's a photo from your camera... then the question is off the table.
Aizek Photo, because: First: why? You're not listing this for sale, meaning you don't need to adhere to any description standards for a buyer to find it.
Second: You read this description and wonder: "Does the author take us for idiots who can't even comprehend what they're seeing in the photo?" It's truly idiotic to look at a photo and read underneath that it's a close-up of a young woman with dark hair and a pierced nose. The second question that arises is: "Maybe the author themselves are an idiot?" This isn't an insult, it's a description of how I feel when reading AI descriptions. Thirdly: it's immediately obvious (to many) that the description is AI-made, and this immediately raises suspicion that the image itself is AI-made (see Alexander's questions above).
Why do you need all this? Can't you write your own description if you somehow think you need one?
And regarding the photo: Was the right side of the frame (ZP) blurred in post-processing?
And click the "Reply" button under the comment, then the commenter will know that you've replied to them, and everyone will understand who you're replying to.
Aizek Photo, because: First: why? You're not listing this for sale, meaning you don't need to adhere to any description standards for a buyer to find this photo. Second: You read this description and wonder: "Does the author take us for idiots who can't even comprehend what they're seeing in the photo?" It's truly idiotic to look at a photo and read underneath that it's a close-up of a young woman with dark hair and a pierced nose. The second question that arises is: "Maybe the author themselves are an idiot?" This isn't an insult, it's a description of how I feel when reading AI descriptions. Thirdly: it's immediately obvious (to many) that the description is artificial, and this immediately raises suspicion that the image itself is artificial (see Alexander's questions above).
Why do you need all this? Can't you write your own description if you somehow think you need one?
And regarding the photo: Was the right side of the frame (ZP) blurred in post-processing?
And click the "Reply" button under the comment, so the commenter will know you've replied, and everyone will understand to whom you're replying.
M Y X O M O P, Why do you need a description if the photo isn't for sale? Photo descriptions aren't just for buyers.
They also help viewers better understand the idea or context of the photo, especially if it's complex, unusual, or requires attention to details that aren't immediately noticeable. It's a kind of narrative accompanying the visual image.
On the "idiocy" of descriptions and viewer perception I understand your point that the description seems overly basic, but sometimes simplicity helps convey the main idea, especially if the author wants to emphasize an element that may be unnoticeable at first glance. This isn't an attempt to demean the viewer, but rather to aid perception.
Suspicion of AI in the description and in the photo itself Yes, technology is now actively used both in creating descriptions and in image processing. But the use of AI is only a tool, and not a sign of poor quality. Moreover, AI can help authors save time and provide different description options. The main thing is that the final content is useful and accurate.
Regarding the blurring of the right side of the frame This could indeed be a stylistic decision to emphasize the main subject of the photo. Post-processing is part of the creative process, and it varies from author to author. Thank you for your comment; this is a useful observation. Bokeh is a natural blur that occurs when shooting with a camera at certain settings: a large aperture (small f-number), a long focal length lens, and a certain distance between the subject and the background. This blur is achieved optically, not by software or AI. It is a classic technique in portrait photography for separating the subject from the background.
The key difference from artificial (software-assisted) blur is that bokeh is always clearly visible in the nature of the transitions, the shape of the highlights, and the lens "pattern," which cannot be fully simulated by software. Moreover, natural bokeh is always proven in the photo's EXIF data, which records the shooting parameters in detail, including aperture, shutter speed, focal length, and the camera and lens used. This data is automatically recorded by the camera when you press the shutter release and confirms that the blur was achieved optically, and not manually added after shooting or created by AI.
Technical point about the "Reply" button Thank you for the advice, I'll keep it in mind to maintain a convenient communication.
In general, it's important to remember that the creative process and the perception of art are subjective, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Your comments are constructive, and I welcome the opportunity to clarify my actions.
I hope I can explain my position and clear up any misunderstandings. If you have any further questions or suggestions, I'm always open to dialogue!
[The use of AI is only a tool, and not a sign of poor quality. Moreover, AI can help authors save time and provide different description options. I hope I can explain my position and eliminate any possible misunderstandings. If you have any further questions or suggestions, I'm always open to dialogue!
Aizek Photo, Finally! Finally, live, technologically advanced communication using computer cliches!!! Finally, another technologically advanced author! Now there's no need to stupidly compose anything by hand! Now we can save time! If you have any questions or suggestions, I'm always open to dialogue!
[ Using AI is just a tool, and not a sign of poor quality. Moreover, AI can help authors save time and provide different description options. I hope I can explain my position and eliminate any possible misunderstandings. If you have any further questions or suggestions, I'm always open to dialogue! Aizek Photo, Finally! Finally, live, technologically advanced communication using computer cliches!!! Finally, another technologically advanced author! Now there's no need to stupidly compose anything by hand! Now we can save time! If you have any questions or suggestions, I'm always open to dialogue!
Alexander Chumakov, Why photos? Let's all switch to Masterpiece. (Not an advertisement). It will help save time.
... Photographic descriptions... also help viewers better understand the idea or context of the image...
especially if the author wants to emphasize a certain element...
Regarding the blur on the right side of the frame...
Aizek Photo, If a photograph requires verbal explanation, it means the author, as a photographer, has failed. If a photo doesn't evoke, for example, the intended emotion in viewers, then no matter how much you describe it in words, it won't arise. If someone is passionate about photography, they should be able to emphasize something in the frame using photographic techniques. If this isn't important to them because they believe this skill can be replaced by description, then they're not passionate about photography, but rather literary writing.
Regarding the blur: I didn't ask for a lecture (especially one generated by AI) on what bokeh is and how it's technically achieved, or what an exif file is and how it's created. I asked a simple question: was the right side of the frame blurred in post-processing or was it blurred by the lens when shooting? There are two simple answers to this question: "blurred by the lens" and "blurred in a graphics editor." If you had simply given one of these answers, you would have saved a lot of time. You probably don't want to answer it—that's your right.
And by the way: " - Windows Exif Editor... It lets you process metadata in graphic, audio, and video files, as well as IPTC tags from images. - ExifTool... lets you edit and delete EXIF metadata. - Picvario MetaEditor... It lets you work not only with EXIF metadata, but also with IPTC and XMP. - IMGonline... lets you process EXIF data directly in your browser. Its tools let you view and edit file information, copy, and delete it." ""That's some bullshit, kids"" (c) Grandpa Panas.
Aizek Photo, If a photograph requires verbal explanation, it means the author, as a photographer, has failed. If a photo doesn't evoke, for example, the intended emotion in viewers, then no matter how much you describe it in words, it won't emerge. If someone is passionate about photography, they should be able to emphasize something in the frame using photographic techniques. If this isn't important to them because they think this skill can be replaced by description, then they're not passionate about photography, but rather literary writing.
Regarding blur: I didn't ask for a lecture (especially one generated by AI) on what bokeh is and how it's technically achieved, or what an exif file is and how one is created. I asked a simple question: was the right side of the frame blurred in post-processing, or was it blurred by the lens during shooting. There are two simple answers to this question: "blurred by the lens" and "blurred by a graphics editor." If you had simply given one of these answers, you would have saved a lot of time. You probably don't want to answer it—that's your right.
M Y X O M O P, Your assertion that a photograph should speak for itself without words and that any explanation demonstrates the author's incompetence is an overly simplistic view of the complex art of photography.
Photography isn't just the technical skill of taking a beautiful picture; it is, first and foremost, a means of communication between the artist and the viewer. Description and words don't replace the photograph, but complement it, revealing the artist's intention, helping those who want to understand the idea of the photograph more deeply but don't always sense it at first glance. In the world of contemporary art, the experience of a work can vary, and for different people, reading a work through text is an important stage of perception.
Emphasizing something in a frame with photographic techniques is undoubtedly an important skill, but it doesn't deprive artists of the right to use words for additional communication, which is often practiced in photography. An author's description can serve not so much as an explanation as an additional layer of meaning, an invitation to dialogue.
Your categorical rejection of such mutual communication misses the richness of artistic practice, where form and content work together, complementing each other. Ultimately, respect for different approaches enriches both the photographer and the viewer.
Therefore, criticism that turns description into a way to "replace" photographic skills fails to recognize the multifaceted nature of creativity and can only exacerbate unnecessary conflicts.
So let's leave room for both photographic craft and words, so that we can appreciate and understand art more broadly, without mutual attacks. I hope this will end the debate and lead to a more respectful dialogue.
Grandfather Panas's quote clearly lifts the spirits and adds color, but let's put emotions aside and focus on the essence of the matter. Regardless of what someone calls the tools or processes, the facts remain facts – EXIF editors really do work and help photographers control and confirm shooting parameters.
If you have specific questions on the topic or technical nuances, I'm always happy to help. However, resorting to rudeness and devaluing useful tools is, to put it mildly, unconvincing.
So let's look at things together on the merits, without unnecessary emotions – then the dialogue will be constructive, and "this is bullshit" will turn into mutual understanding.
... Photography isn't just the technical skill of taking a beautiful picture; it's first and foremost a means of communication between the artist and the viewer. Description and words don't replace the photograph; they complement it, revealing the artist's intentions and helping those who want to understand the idea of the image more deeply but don't always grasp it at first glance. In the world of contemporary art, the experience of interacting with a work can vary, and for different people, reading a work through text is an important stage of perception....
Aizek Photo, yet in the "About the Author" section, you wrote, "Photography is my language without unnecessary words." I understand that it's just "blah-blah-blah," and believing what it says is like believing the "Our Mission" section on a commercial company's website, but you should have made up your mind.
I understand that you're accustomed to criticizing and finding a catch in every phrase, but let's be clear: "Photography is my language without unnecessary words."
This phrase isn't an empty declaration or a collection of clichés. It captures the essence of the author's creative vision: For me, photography truly is a way to express thoughts and emotions directly, without cumbersome explanations and verbal excess.
It's a desire for the photograph to speak for itself, for the visual image to be understood and felt without additional description.
However, recognizing photography as a "language without unnecessary words" doesn't preclude the possibility of occasionally adding context or sharing thoughts, if the author so chooses.
This isn't a contradiction, but rather the natural versatility of creativity:
The same language can be embellished with expressions and nuances—in this case, words—if it helps convey an idea or mood more deeply.
If someone is ready to see only "blah-blah-blah" in such words, that's not my fault, it's simply their skeptical perception filter. We shouldn't deny people the right to self-expression and choose their own style of communication with the audience.
So, Fly Agaric, instead of constantly picking on others, we should respect others' creative paths and understand that every artist expresses themselves in their own way—and that's normal and human.
I hope there will be fewer questions about my position now, and more constructive dialogue.
Author! The AI's ears aren't just visible in your texts; they're actually moving. In such a short time, you've generated extensive texts that are distinguished by absolute literacy, correct punctuation, and a well-structured text structure that immediately qualifies as machine thinking. Don't embarrass yourself. And as for talking to a machine, please excuse me.
Author! The AI's ears aren't just visible in your texts; they're actually moving. In such a short time, you've generated extensive texts that are distinguished by absolute literacy, correct punctuation, and a well-structured text structure that can immediately be characterized as machine thinking. Don't disgrace yourself. And as for talking to a machine—forget it.
Author! The AI's ears aren't just visible in your texts; they're actually moving. In such a short time, you've generated extensive texts that are distinguished by absolute literacy, correct punctuation, and a well-structured text structure that can immediately be characterized as machine thinking. Don't disgrace yourself. And as for talking to a machine—forget it.
Edu, your skepticism is understandable, but let the quality of the text speak for itself—clarity, literacy, and structure are important regardless of the source. The most important things are the content and respect for dialogue, not fear of the "machine."
Edu, your skepticism is understandable, but let the quality of the text speak for itself—clarity, grammar, and structure are important regardless of the source. The key is content and respect for dialogue, not fear of the "machine."
Aizek Photo, Do you know the saying "to pass off a dog as a raccoon"? I think so. So, don't confuse it with "making a mountain out of a molehill." And in general, you shouldn't make a mountain out of a molehill.
Aizek Photo, You know the saying "to pass off a dog as a raccoon"? I think you do. So, don't confuse it with "making a mountain out of a molehill." And in general, you shouldn't make a mountain out of a molehill.
Nikolay Semenov, That was your two cents about AI. It seems like people are afraid of these technologies. Your sarcasm and your flies are a "masterpiece"!
Nikolay Semenov, So that's your two cents about AI. It seems like people are afraid of these technologies. Your sarcasm and your flies are a "masterpiece"!
Aizek Photo, People - yes! But not everyone. Most don't even know what AI is and that it can be passed off as SI (one's own intelligence) when one's own isn't enough.
Damn, I lost the thread. For me, it's just a show-off.
But no matter. The photo is good.
Vyacheslav Poznoy, One person didn't like the description, then questioned the EXIF—he suggested the photo was generated. Although EXIF is always on the host. Then there was this enlightening moment about EXIF being editable at different levels. A third person accused me of using AI to generate the description. I didn't hide that from the start, even writing where and how I did it. But it's worth noting that new modern tools often provoke strong reactions, and it's really funny to watch.))) And thank you! I tried my best, and I really like this shot.😍
Aizek Photo, People - yes! But far from all. Most don't even know what AI is and that it can be passed off as SI (one's own intelligence) when one's own isn't enough.
Nikolay Semenov, I'm developing and learning new things. Intelligence is about development, not conservatism. Learn more, develop.
... I'm developing, learning new things. Intelligence is about development, not conservatism. Learn more, develop.
Aizek Photo, Hee-hee-hee! It's developing! While the AI is scribbling descriptions for you, you'll never learn to write them yourself. You even continue to write with mistakes when you try to answer questions yourself, without the AI's help. You might as well say that the AI generates images for the photographer, thereby helping them improve their photography skills. Yeah, yeah. Basically, more empty talk and demagoguery.
Aizek Photo, Hee-hee! It's evolving! While the AI is scribbling descriptions for you, you'll never learn to write them yourself. You even continue to make mistakes when you try to answer questions yourself, without the AI's help. You might as well say that the AI generates images for the photographer, thereby helping them improve their photography skills. Yeah, yeah. Basically, more empty words and demagoguery.
M Y X O M O P, Let's respect different approaches and methods. Using modern tools, including AI, is just one way to optimize the process and save time, not a denial of skill. Criticizing technology instead of discussing the essence and quality of the work is not constructive and distracts from the main thing.
Everyone chooses their own path in creativity and learning, and it's not necessary to follow a single template. Your comments are valuable, but constant nitpicking creates tension and hinders constructive dialogue. I suggest focusing on the essence, not the formal details.
Today, AI is being integrated into modern and popular photo editors at an incredible rate, accelerating development and providing new opportunities for creators. 😉
... Criticism of technology instead of discussing the essence and quality of the work is not constructive and distracts from the main thing...
Aizek Photo, once again: there was no criticism of the technology here, there was criticism of the result of using this technology, i.e., the essence and quality of the work created by AI. You were told here that this description suits this photo like a saddle on a cow. It seems idiotic here. You used AI here for the sake of using AI. Probably to present yourself (primarily in your own eyes) as modern and progressive. For you, the use of AI itself is more important than the result of its use, because the result is completely crap. Likewise, under the second photo, all this AI-esque pathos looks very clever when the image itself (and this is a panoramic photo!) is spread-eagled.
Once again: there was no criticism of the technology here, there was criticism of the result of using this technology, i.e., the essence and quality of the work created by AI. You were told here that this description suits this photo like a saddle on a cow. It seems idiotic here. You used AI here for the sake of using AI. Probably to present yourself (primarily in your own eyes) as modern and progressive. For you, the use of AI itself is more important than the result of its use, since the result is quite lousy. Likewise, under the second photo, all this AI-esque pathos seems very clever when the image itself (and this is a panoramic photo!) is spread out.
Thank you for your candor. I understand your perception, but I want to point out: criticism of the result is important and deserves attention, but one should separate the assessment of the author's work from the tool they use. The use of AI is not an end in itself, but a means that can help reveal an idea or save time. If the result isn't perfect, it's a reason to work on it and improve, not to devalue the entire process.
Regarding your comment about the effect of "idiotic" descriptions and pathos, every photographer sees their shots differently, and the presentation style doesn't always match the expectations of all viewers. Landscape photography has its own characteristics, where mood and context are sometimes more important than just technical perfection.
Let's respect different views and approaches, while constructively discussing quality and content, rather than reducing everything to a set of labels.
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First: why? You're not listing this for sale, meaning you don't need to adhere to any description standards for a buyer to find it.
Second: You read this description and wonder: "Does the author take us for idiots who can't even comprehend what they're seeing in the photo?" It's truly idiotic to look at a photo and read underneath that it's a close-up of a young woman with dark hair and a pierced nose. The second question that arises is: "Maybe the author themselves are an idiot?"
This isn't an insult, it's a description of how I feel when reading AI descriptions. Thirdly: it's immediately obvious (to many) that the description is AI-made, and this immediately raises suspicion that the image itself is AI-made (see Alexander's questions above).
Why do you need all this? Can't you write your own description if you somehow think you need one?
And regarding the photo: Was the right side of the frame (ZP) blurred in post-processing?
And click the "Reply" button under the comment, then the commenter will know that you've replied to them, and everyone will understand who you're replying to.
Photo descriptions aren't just for buyers.
They also help viewers better understand the idea or context of the photo,
especially if it's complex, unusual, or requires attention to details that aren't immediately noticeable. It's a kind of narrative accompanying the visual image.
On the "idiocy" of descriptions and viewer perception
I understand your point that the description seems overly basic, but sometimes simplicity helps convey the main idea,
especially if the author wants to emphasize an element that may be unnoticeable at first glance. This isn't an attempt to demean the viewer,
but rather to aid perception.
Suspicion of AI in the description and in the photo itself
Yes, technology is now actively used both in creating descriptions and in image processing. But the use of AI is only a tool,
and not a sign of poor quality. Moreover, AI can help authors save time and provide different description options.
The main thing is that the final content is useful and accurate.
Regarding the blurring of the right side of the frame
This could indeed be a stylistic decision to emphasize the main subject of the photo.
Post-processing is part of the creative process, and it varies from author to author. Thank you for your comment; this is a useful observation.
Bokeh is a natural blur that occurs when shooting with a camera at certain settings: a large aperture (small f-number),
a long focal length lens, and a certain distance between the subject and the background. This blur is achieved optically,
not by software or AI. It is a classic technique in portrait photography for separating the subject from the background.
The key difference from artificial (software-assisted) blur is that bokeh is always clearly visible in the nature of the transitions,
the shape of the highlights, and the lens "pattern," which cannot be fully simulated by software. Moreover,
natural bokeh is always proven in the photo's EXIF data, which records the shooting parameters in detail, including aperture, shutter speed,
focal length, and the camera and lens used. This data is automatically recorded by the camera when you press the shutter release and confirms that the blur was achieved optically, and not manually added after shooting or created by AI.
Technical point about the "Reply" button
Thank you for the advice, I'll keep it in mind to maintain a convenient communication.
In general, it's important to remember that the creative process and the perception of art are subjective, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Your comments are constructive, and I welcome the opportunity to clarify my actions.
I hope I can explain my position and clear up any misunderstandings. If you have any further questions or suggestions, I'm always open to dialogue!
If someone is passionate about photography, they should be able to emphasize something in the frame using photographic techniques. If this isn't important to them because they believe this skill can be replaced by description, then they're not passionate about photography, but rather literary writing.
Regarding the blur: I didn't ask for a lecture (especially one generated by AI) on what bokeh is and how it's technically achieved, or what an exif file is and how it's created. I asked a simple question: was the right side of the frame blurred in post-processing or was it blurred by the lens when shooting? There are two simple answers to this question: "blurred by the lens" and "blurred in a graphics editor." If you had simply given one of these answers, you would have saved a lot of time. You probably don't want to answer it—that's your right.
" - Windows Exif Editor... It lets you process metadata in graphic, audio, and video files, as well as IPTC tags from images.
- ExifTool... lets you edit and delete EXIF metadata.
- Picvario MetaEditor... It lets you work not only with EXIF metadata, but also with IPTC and XMP.
- IMGonline... lets you process EXIF data directly in your browser. Its tools let you view and edit file information, copy, and delete it."
""That's some bullshit, kids"" (c) Grandpa Panas.
Photography isn't just the technical skill of taking a beautiful picture; it is, first and foremost, a means of communication between the artist and the viewer. Description and words don't replace the photograph, but complement it, revealing the artist's intention, helping those who want to understand the idea of the photograph more deeply but don't always sense it at first glance. In the world of contemporary art, the experience of a work can vary, and for different people, reading a work through text is an important stage of perception.
Emphasizing something in a frame with photographic techniques is undoubtedly an important skill, but it doesn't deprive artists of the right to use words for additional communication, which is often practiced in photography. An author's description can serve not so much as an explanation as an additional layer of meaning, an invitation to dialogue.
Your categorical rejection of such mutual communication misses the richness of artistic practice, where form and content work together, complementing each other. Ultimately, respect for different approaches enriches both the photographer and the viewer.
Therefore, criticism that turns description into a way to "replace" photographic skills fails to recognize the multifaceted nature of creativity and can only exacerbate unnecessary conflicts.
So let's leave room for both photographic craft and words, so that we can appreciate and understand art more broadly, without mutual attacks. I hope this will end the debate and lead to a more respectful dialogue.
If you have specific questions on the topic or technical nuances, I'm always happy to help. However, resorting to rudeness and devaluing useful tools is, to put it mildly, unconvincing.
So let's look at things together on the merits, without unnecessary emotions – then the dialogue will be constructive, and "this is bullshit" will turn into mutual understanding.
I understand that it's just "blah-blah-blah," and believing what it says is like believing the "Our Mission" section on a commercial company's website, but you should have made up your mind.
"Photography is my language without unnecessary words."
This phrase isn't an empty declaration or a collection of clichés. It captures the essence of the author's creative vision:
For me, photography truly is a way to express thoughts and emotions directly, without cumbersome explanations and verbal excess.
It's a desire for the photograph to speak for itself, for the visual image to be understood and felt without additional description.
However, recognizing photography as a "language without unnecessary words" doesn't preclude the possibility of occasionally adding context or sharing thoughts, if the author so chooses.
This isn't a contradiction, but rather the natural versatility of creativity:
The same language can be embellished with expressions and nuances—in this case, words—if it helps convey an idea or mood more deeply.
If someone is ready to see only "blah-blah-blah" in such words, that's not my fault,
it's simply their skeptical perception filter. We shouldn't deny people the right to self-expression and choose their own style of communication with the audience.
So, Fly Agaric, instead of constantly picking on others, we should respect others' creative paths and understand
that every artist expresses themselves in their own way—and that's normal and human.
I hope there will be fewer questions about my position now, and more constructive dialogue.
But whatever. The photo is good.
You might as well say that the AI generates images for the photographer, thereby helping them improve their photography skills. Yeah, yeah.
Basically, more empty talk and demagoguery.
Everyone chooses their own path in creativity and learning, and it's not necessary to follow a single template. Your comments are valuable, but constant nitpicking creates tension and hinders constructive dialogue. I suggest focusing on the essence, not the formal details.
Today, AI is being integrated into modern and popular photo editors at an incredible rate, accelerating development and providing new opportunities for creators. 😉
Likewise, under the second photo, all this AI-esque pathos looks very clever when the image itself (and this is a panoramic photo!) is spread-eagled.
Regarding your comment about the effect of "idiotic" descriptions and pathos, every photographer sees their shots differently, and the presentation style doesn't always match the expectations of all viewers. Landscape photography has its own characteristics, where mood and context are sometimes more important than just technical perfection.
Let's respect different views and approaches, while constructively discussing quality and content, rather than reducing everything to a set of labels.